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Anton Troynikov of Chroma and Flo Crivello of Lindy AI join The Cognitive Revolution cohosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg to debate the issues raised in the AI open letter, which advocates for a 6-month pause on AI system trainings.

This was recorded on March 31st and first released as an  @MomentofZenPodcast  episode on April 1. Subscribe to Moment of Zen for more timely debates like this one! .https://www.youtube.com/@MomentofZenPodcast

Also, check out the debut of Erik's new long-form interview podcast Upstream, whose guests in the first two episodes were Balaji Srinivasan and Marc Andreessen. This coming season will feature interviews with Ezra Klein, David Sacks, Katherine Boyle, and more. @UpstreamwithErikTorenberg

LINKS:
Open letter: https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/
Scott Aronson blog post: https://scottaaronson.blog/

TIMESTAMPS:
(0:00) Preview of debate
(3:10) Introduction from Nathan and explanation of the AI open letter
(8:50) Anton’s skepticism of the open letter
(12:14) Flo’s skepticism of the open letter
(16:35) Nathan’s support for the open letter
(22:52) Sponsor: Omneky
(28:00) Differences between Flo and Anton’s positions
(34:00) GPT4 is still dangerous
(42:30) Luddites/“Pausers” are on the wrong side of history
(47:44) Why not pause for 6 months?
(56:30) Anton and Flo debate robotics
(1:04:30) What we’re all scared of with AI
(1:27:45) Is there an asymmetric risk with pausing or not pausing?

TWITTER:
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@atroyn (Anton)
@labenz (Nathan)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@altimor (Flo)

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Thank you to Graham Bessellieu for production.