In this thought-provoking episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Jeremy and Edouard Harris, founders of Gladstone AI and authors of "America's Superintelligence Project."

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In this thought-provoking episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Jeremy and Edouard Harris, founders of Gladstone AI and authors of "America's Superintelligence Project." The conversation explores a critical dilemma facing US policymakers: balancing the race to develop advanced AI ahead of China against the risks of losing control of increasingly powerful systems. Drawing from their extensive research with intelligence officials and technical experts, the Harris brothers detail the vulnerabilities in US critical infrastructure that would need to be addressed for a Manhattan Project-style AI initiative, while raising profound questions about the security compromises and centralization of power such a project would entail. Nathan offers his perspective that international cooperation might be preferable to an AI arms race, inviting listeners to consider whether humanity's shared interests might ultimately outweigh geopolitical rivalries in the development of superintelligent systems.

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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) About the Episode
(05:50) Introduction and Background
(08:59) Defining Superintelligence
(15:06) AI vs Biological Weapons
(19:22) Jagged Capabilities of AI (Part 1)
(20:38) Sponsors: Box AI | Shopify
(24:27) Jagged Capabilities of AI (Part 2)
(30:00) Multimodal AI Development
(34:54) Silicon Valley AI Culture (Part 1)
(37:03) Sponsors: NetSuite | Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI)
(39:44) Silicon Valley AI Culture (Part 2)
(44:23) Ideological Motivations in AI
(53:25) US Government AI Awareness
(01:01:18) China-US AI Competition
(01:08:43) Manhattan Project for AI
(01:16:33) Critical Infrastructure Vulnerabilities
(01:30:30) Supply Chain Security Issues
(01:45:28) Securing AI Development
(01:59:52) China's Open Source Strategy
(02:04:06) Prerequisites for Cooperation
(02:09:46) Outro

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